TheCzarsHussar Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Just now, The Good Doctor said: She is supposed to have four arms. Trash art. Surely you noticed by now, either from appearance or by her telling you, that's a doll... ... Maybe her real body is out there somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Just now, TheCzarsHussar said: Surely you noticed by now, either from appearance or by her telling you, that's a doll... ... Maybe her real body is out there somewhere? Like a weird ghost possessed doll. But why would the imitation have four arms if she’s only got two? * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: Hide contents Ranni gave Rykard some magical protection too, seemed like he was close with his siblings. Not a good person, but not evil..till the whole Snake thing While already treading the path of blasphemy during the Shattering, he didn't seem so bad in what little we knew of him prior. Against the absolute cosmic horror that is the Greater Will, it's no surprise he sought for more power to destroy it. Sadly, what he found was worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: She is supposed to have four arms. Trash art. Keep this in mind as you progress the quest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 minute ago, The Good Doctor said: Like a weird ghost possessed doll. But why would the imitation have four arms if she’s only got two? It's never explained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 That was a spoiler; let him read the description first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: That was a spoiler; let him read the description first Oh yeah lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 @BigBossBalrog Imagine how better off things could have been if Mohg, literally the most evil character in From, was unable to kidnap Miquella. The Haligtree might have not rotted, and replaced the Erdtree...but then there'd be a massive fucking backlash from the Greater Will. Malenia might have quelled her rot, and the Albinaurics would be modestly less sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: @BigBossBalrog Hide contents Imagine how better off things could have been if Mohg, literally the most evil character in From, was unable to kidnap Miquella. The Haligtree might have not rotted, and replaced the Erdtree...but then there'd be a massive fucking backlash from the Greater Will. Malenia might have quelled her rot, and the Albinaurics would be modestly less sad. Hide your kids, hide your wives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 I'm curious to hear everyone thoughts on the Demigods in comparsion to past Souls villians; I think they pretty much blow everyone else out of the water, in terms of lore, the amount of flavor text they have, personality, relevance to the game, and it being really cool almost all of them have dialogue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Grant I’ve got a lot to go so my answer isn’t complete. In terms of lore and presentation, the ones I’ve dealt with are excellent. Radahn is the toppest of tiers, but they’ve all been very cool. In terms of the fights themselves, like mechanically, I feel this game isn’t their best work. Most bosses seem to basically just be super fast and spammy, lots of attacks are not well telegraphed and are difficult to read until the moment they hit you, and everyone is just so damn fast. Like Bloodborne except you’re more slow. That said, it’s also not as hard (so far) because more builds seem viable in this and you have such a huge number of tools and tricks to work with. 2 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Margit was probably the most well designed boss I’ve encountered in terms of mechanics. He was tough, and designed to challenge the instincts we’ve developed so far, but fair overall. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Grant I’ve got a lot to go so my answer isn’t complete. In terms of lore and presentation, the ones I’ve dealt with are excellent. Radahn is the toppest of tiers, but they’ve all been very cool. In terms of the fights themselves, like mechanically, I feel this game isn’t their best work. Most bosses seem to basically just be super fast and spammy, lots of attacks are not well telegraphed and are difficult to read until the moment they hit you, and everyone is just so damn fast. Like Bloodborne except you’re more slow. That said, it’s also not as hard (so far) because more builds seem viable in this and you have such a huge number of tools and tricks to work with. I agree with this, but I still think presentation wise the main bosses are the best they've done. Like did you see that Rennala fight Dripping cinematic and atmosphere. Same with Radahn. Mechanically I'd still give it to Dank Souls III. But that might change with DLC. I'd probably rate the bosses overall just a little above vanilla Bloodborne, and lower then Sekiro and Dark Souls 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 Vanilla BB fights were good, but most people remember it's bosses for Old Hunters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: Mechanically I'd still give it to Dank Souls III. Agreed, in terms of consistent quality. I think Bloodborne reached the highest highs with Maria, Gehrman, Ludwig, and Orphan of Kos, but the rest of its roster was far weaker. Darks Souls 3 had a lot of greats and goods, and very few that were average to bad. I’ve heard Sekiro’s roster is great too but I wouldn’t know. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Most of DS3’s best bosses are DLC as well, but it still has quite a few legendary vanilla ones like the Soul of Cinder, the Pontiff, Nameless King, etc. Plus, Rom and Micolash really drag BB down. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 Though again; I think the sheer amount of options they give you in Elden Ring must have made designing the bosses much tougher then the past games. Alongside the fact, a vast majority of the other games mechanics, like exploring and the super enhanced combat are so much better and engaging, I can accept bosses just being "Good enough". Still miles better then most of the industry. 7 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Most of DS3’s best bosses are DLC as well, but it still has quite a few legendary vanilla ones like the Soul of Cinder, the Pontiff, Nameless King, etc. Plus, Rom and Micolash really drag BB down. Nameless is still the height for me. Such a cool fight. Vanilla BB had Gherman and Gascoine, but those are the only ones I think are very memorable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 The worst fights in this game suffer from the same problems as the worst in BB. Massive, spazzy beasts that screw with your camera and you can’t hardly tell which part of them you’re next to. But my biggest complaint about bosses so far is that by mid game, you’ll start to notice some of them getting repeated, which is understandable considering the size of the game; but does it have to be the worst ones?? I am sick to death of Erdtree avatars and weird cat statues. But overall, the lows aren’t as bad as Bloodborne. And the best ones are still more good than bad. I quite liked the Magma Wyrm guarding the way to Altus up north. Specifically, his second phase in particular. The Draconic Tree Sentinel outside the capital was solid too. Hardest boss I’ve fought so far, but apart from one attack (where he just calls a lightning strike on your head), he never felt unfair and my defeats felt like they were because of my own mistakes. Turns out fighting the horseman on foot was much easier than doing it mounted. Once I realized that, it was only a matter of time. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: Though again; I think the sheer amount of options they give you in Elden Ring must have made designing the bosses much tougher then the past games. Alongside the fact, a vast majority of the other games mechanics, like exploring and the super enhanced combat are so much better and engaging, I can accept bosses just being "Good enough". Still miles better then most of the industry. Oh no doubt. This game is still phenomenal in what it does right. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: The worst fights in this game suffer from the same problems as the worst in BB. Massive, spazzy beasts that screw with your camera and you can’t hardly tell which part of them you’re next to. But my biggest complaint about bosses so far is that by mid game, you’ll start to notice some of them getting repeated, which is understandable considering the size of the game; but does it have to be the worst ones?? I am sick to death of Erdtree avatars and weird cat statues. But overall, the lows aren’t as bad as Bloodborne. And the best ones are still more good than bad. Hide contents I quite liked the Magma Wyrm guarding the way to Altus up north. Specifically, his second phase in particular. The Draconic Tree Sentinel outside the capital was solid too. Hardest boss I’ve fought so far, but apart from one attack (where he just calls a lightning strike on your head), he never felt unfair and my defeats felt like they were because of my own mistakes. Turns out fighting the horseman on foot was much easier than doing it mounted. Once I realized that, it was only a matter of time. You read the descriptions about the Wyrms right? One of my favorite depictions of Dragons cause of how faithful they are to Norse Mythology, "It's said these land-bound dragons were once humans heroes who partook in dragon communication, a grave transgression for which they were cursed to crawl the earth upon their bellies, shadows of their former selves." Like the Legend of Fafnir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 Oh and there's some really good late-game bosses, I wont spoil, but if you want, heading to the volcano manor is a good direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: Oh and there's some really good late-game bosses, I wont spoil, but if you want, heading to the volcano manor is a good direction I actually went there last night. You get SO much good gear from their easy ass invasion quests! * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: I actually went there last night. You get SO much good gear from their easy ass invasion quests! Your selling your principles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheCzarsHussar Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Damn Doc, man went from Radahn all the way through the Plateau and the manor. Making good progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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