The Good Doctor Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 I still like the idea that Radahm promised it "over his dead body" and Miquella took that shit literally. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Chris Hansen "Red-Lion Radahn we're you carrying that pizza?" Radahn: You know...just having a bros night out with my little brother. 4 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: That's actually ambiguous Miquella was seemingly alone, rambling to himself as he begged Radahn to become his consort. And if he wasn't, and actually talking to Radahn, it's telling he only gets silence in return as the screen fades to black. The Japanese version actually is alot more clear. He's talking to Radahn, and it specifically mention Radahn gave him a condition he needed to meet before he became his consort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: No really, Miquella's charm was the only thing keeping Leda from slaughtering everyone. Nobody else was even going to challenge Miquella outside the player. Throllier wanted to lose himself in the everlasting sleep of St. Trina. Ansbach was a broken man who didn't see the point in taking up his bloodflame again. Dryleaf Dane is her faithful ally and also truly believed in Miquella. Moore has the IQ of a child and just wants to be loved. Hornsent swears an oath that he wishes only to avenge his people. But Leda mucks everything up with her bloodthirsty paranoia. Ending up sending Ansbach down the path of redemption. Forgot about Freja, she was entirely on board as well. Wishing for Radahn to live again. Despite knowing it would break Jerran's heart ;-; If there's any more bit of evidence that this wasn't what Radahn wanted it's that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Could have been, "give me the greatest battle ever"...which he got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: Chris Hansen "Red-Lion Radahn we're you carrying that pizza?" Radahn: You know...just having a bros night out with my little brother. The Japanese version actually is alot more clear. He's talking to Radahn, and it specifically mention Radahn gave him a condition he needed to meet before he became his consort. A huge thing about that is even if Radahn promised to become Miquella's consort this would have been ancient history. Before the Shattering, before the Shattering War, before Radahn conquered the stars. Everything that has happened since then shows Radahn wishes to walk a different path. Miquella obviously couldn't let go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Mind you that post is very anti-Radahn, and apparently alot of Japanese fans were saying the user was taking his translation and coloring it with his own opinion, but the gist of it is true; that Radahn asked Miquella for something, and that he's indeed talking to him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 That thread also proposes that Radahn agreed to it but only after Miquella "grows up". Which if true, in Radahn’s mind, would’ve been tantamount to saying "never". But through Mohg and his own bodily death, Miquella did find a loophole to sort of "grow up", in a sense, honoring his half of the vow, and making it so he now feels entitled to Radahn. Radahn, having obviously believed it impossible, would have then resisted as he never actually expected or planned for this to occur. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 It's frightfully telling Miquella has brought back Radahn's soul, but not his consciousness, or so heavily shackled it that he's all but dead inside. His beloved horse, that was the very motivation for learning magic is nowhere in sight. Beyond Jerran's sorrow, I think this is the greatest but of evidence against Radahn wishing a final battle against Malenia being his bargain. So much of Radahn's character is amusingly about his horse. That even in his mindless state, he does everything in his power to protect Leonard from his own attacks. Violent as shoving his ass into the sand is If Fromsoft just had Leonard off to the side, sleeping or something next to the gate of divinity then I'd honestly be just about convinced that Radahn willingly stands by Miquella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 A big argument I see over and over again is that Radahn only wanted a glorious final battle to be part of the bargain. But I think that's just part of his warriors ethos. Rotting away from Malenia's Scarlet Rot he beseeched his best friend Jerran to grant him a warrior's death, rather then waste away from the rot. As he couldn't even perish from it due to his Great Rune. Radahn didn't want an unending existence of agony. I don't think that translates into "Muh I only exist for a good death." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: That thread also proposes that Radahn agreed to it but only after Miquella "grows up". Which if true, in Radahn’s mind, would’ve been tantamount to saying "never". But through Mohg and his own bodily death, Miquella did find a loophole to sort of "grow up", in a sense, honoring his half of the vow, and making it so he now feels entitled to Radahn. Radahn, having obviously believed it impossible, would have then resisted as he never actually expected or planned for this to occur. Plus he would have asked Radahn to be his consort during the Age of Radagan's lordship. Miquella was always marked as a potential successor to Marika but with his eternal youth and the current order seemingly resolute, Radahn's answer feels mightily diplomatic. "Sure I'll be your consort... Just as soon as you succeed my father Radagon as Elden Lord." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 It's once again a kind of ironic fate: Radahn's practical ethos is a dissonance: he's by all accounts a very good dude...whose practically enamored with warfare. He's bloodthirsty (he reminds me quite a bit of Gybeui from Sekiro). He loves it. And yet he's forced to live amongst the corpses of his brothers who were all massacred (the battleground he's on is almost a monument to the Shattering's horror), a practical zombie whose lost all his mental faculties. And he's rescued from that fate by the most bloodthirsty people around the Lands Between He represents the noble and horrible aspects of war. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Plus he would have asked Radahn to be his consort during the Age of Radagan's lordship. Miquella was always marked as a potential successor to Marika but with his eternal youth and the current order seemingly resolute, Radahn's answer feels mightily diplomatic. "Sure I'll be your consort... Just as soon as you succeed my father Radagon as Elden Lord." Actually correction. "Just as soon as you succeed Marika as the all powerful God of this age." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 He also reminds me of Nosferatu Zodd from Beserk. Just a more noble version. The Lord of the Battlefield (familiar ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: He also reminds me of Nosferatu Zodd from Beserk. Just a more noble version. The Lord of the Battlefield (familiar ) Zodd would get his ass ate by Radahn for breakfa- wait let me rephrase that. Zodd would get his cheeks clapped by Radah- one more time. Zodd would get pounded by- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 I definitely agree that those who have been just treating Radahn as the glorious-death-seeking warrior man have ignored a lot of his characterization. He is seemingly a very intelligent and curious sort, who studied magic both in schools and with tutors, he loved animals and formed tight bonds with his pets, he was charismatic and meritocratic and inspired loyalty in his men, and he was supposedly one of the kindest demigods of Miquella’s judgement is anything to go on. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Zodd would get his ass ate by Radahn for breakfa- wait let me rephrase that. Zodd would get his cheeks clapped by Radah- one more time. Zodd would get pounded by- Redmanes Vs the New Band of the Hawks would be glorious to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, BigBossBalrog said: Redmanes Vs the New Band of the Hawks would be glorious to watch Ok that's too far, the Reborn Band of the Hawks would clap the Redmanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 2 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Zodd would get his ass ate by Radahn for breakfa- wait let me rephrase that. Zodd would get his cheeks clapped by Radah- one more time. Zodd would get pounded by- Miquella: "Keep going." 2 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: I definitely agree that those who have been just treating Radahn as the glorious-death-seeking warrior man have ignored a lot of his characterization. He is seemingly a very intelligent and curious sort, who studied magic both in schools and with tutors, he loved animals and formed tight bonds with his pets, he was charismatic and meritocratic and inspired loyalty in his men, and he was supposedly one of the kindest demigods of Miquella’s judgement is anything to go on. Joking aside, I think most of that is true. He's one of the lighter Demigods with Morgott. But we have to remember the description specifically mentions that was when he was a kid. I'm sure the Shattering changed him. Freyja's personality also kind of shocked me. She's a pretty chill person...until she's talking about how hard she is about turning Radahn into an Immortal Zombie God of War, and it suits him to kill for all eternity Like shit, that woman has problems. 4 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Ok that's too far, the Reborn Band of the Hawks would clap the Redmanes Fine Redmanes team up with Cleanrots. Radahn and Malenia take the field and lead the attack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: Fine Redmanes team up with Cleanrots. Radahn and Malenia take the field and lead the attack If you also add the Haligtree Knights, who are legitimately the most powerful knights in the Land Between then I think Malenia and Radahn would have a solid chance. If you're also including Griffith and the Falconia armies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, BigBossBalrog said: She's a pretty chill person...until she's talking about how hard she is about turning Radahn into an Immortal Zombie God of War, and it suits him to kill for all eternity Like shit, that woman has problems. Wasn’t she a champion gladiator once upon a time? Of course she has problems. I suspect that Jerren is the better source on Radahn, personally. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 That and this dude pops up to assist the Lands Between armies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: She's a pretty chill person...until she's talking about how hard she is about turning Radahn into an Immortal Zombie God of War, and it suits him to kill for all eternity Like shit, that woman has problems. That's what happens when you invite a former gladiator of Godfrey's arenas into your personal guard. She's what a lot of fans think Radahn was like. "WAR WAR WAR DEATH BLOOD KICKASS WAR" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 How would the Ashina hold up against invading Redmanes? * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, The Good Doctor said: Wasn’t she a champion gladiator once upon a time? Of course she has problems. I suspect that Jerren is the better source on Radahn, personally. Kaiden'd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts